Switching from Honda Civic Hybrid Toyota Prius vs Honda Insight

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Honda Civic Hybrid (3rd gen)

Switching from Honda Hybrid: Toyota Prius vs Insight

Choosing between Prius and Honda insight and why I Prius:

It has been a very choice for me, as I was so in love with my 09 Hybrid, but now I m a proud 3rd Generation driver 2010 Prius II to be My main reason for the switch was the that I needed a recognizable for work purposes, while my Hybrid looked just any other Civic, with the for special aluminum wheels and a sticker on the trunk. The actual process is what I wanted to about as there is a lot to say.

choosing the right Prius to getting the right deal on and the car itself, I had to jump through to be almost satisfied.

When the Insight just came out in March 2009, I test-drove it and did an review and comparison of Honda and Civic Hybrid. Back I was not much impressed by Insight, but came to appreciate it more. when it cam time to upgrade my now aging 2009 Civic I had to make a difficult choice Insight and Prius.

In part choice was influenced by Honda managers so unwilling to give a

Unfortunately I was looking to buy during and after the notorious Cash for program, which brought in a lot of buyers to the car and gave the sales managers feeling of a recovery in the auto This false feeling about a moths past the and of for Clunkers program, at which they realized that of new cars dropped significantly, since who wanted to buy a new car, did it and got a rebate, others were not going to buy

Too bad for me and later for Honda, while the managers were uncooperative in me a deal (though I bought a few from them over the few years), my odometer kept and I had over 31000 miles at the I finally got a Prius.

Trading in Civic Hybrid :

My first and concern was to get the right amount of for my 1 year old Civic. Thanks to s recent release of their Insight hybrid, I instantly about $3000 of equity in my as the new insight could be bought for $19200 + fees and registration / / title costs. A comparably Insight (EX model without was about $21200. Still, my brand new off the dealership floor was plus fees, and I could not it for that money anymore if it had zero miles).

It is difficult to explain or understand how the new car market works, especially the same car maker releases a yet very similar model for less, creating competition its own product line. But that was the in which I ended up and I had 3 choices:

1) my old Civic Hybrid —  since I needed a recognizable this would only be an if I did not get what I wanted for my trade-in.

2) Get Honda Insight

3) Get 2010 Prius

Since 2010 (3rd Gen) was already out and it is in my a much better car than Prius (Gen 2), choice  on the s side was obvious. Now the contest was Insight and Prius. These to look very similar, yet are so different. For the sake of argument, skip the Hybrid technologies in of these cars, as for me, both well.

I will only that Integrated Motor in Honda hybrids works well, despite the Toyota trying to tell you otherwise. both Insight and Prius get similar gas mileage in Green for Insight and ECO mode for Prius.

For me the for choosing a car were more I had some unresolvable issues Insight body (although it so similar to Prius), while I find to be very sexy

On the inside, I lake Insight more. There is so many options for me to stuff my small all over the car. And I have a LOT of things which I always in the car. In Prius you only two side pockets in front space under arm rest and center control panel. compartment  (bottom one) fits the papers and user and the top one is almost useless.

Rear in Prius do not have side which is kind of annoying, as I used those in my Civic.

As for the space I loved the fact Toyota included a pull-out cover by default while does not have it and you NEED to buy unless you want people into your car to steal stuff. Also the fold-down of the rear seat is a nice to Prius as compared vs. insight.

Toyota has 4 disk breaks, Insight is a split disk / breaks. I find it strange for an end 2010 car to have cheap breaks, instead of all-four breaks.

Using a hybrid car for recreational / needs:

Despite of the above negatives of the new Prius, it is an excellent and perfectly fits my needs for and work.  As far as recreation goes, I outdoor activities and my 2009 hybrid was really annoying it came to hauling lard It had a very small trunk, compared to the regular Civic.

The sits did not fold forward to trunk space, due to battery placement. I had to get a roof rack for the and skies if I wanted to go skiing my friends, as these long did not even fit in the rear sit. I had to use a rack to transport my bicycle, and I was afraid it would come and fly off on the highway.

The bike rack significantly reduced my gas mileage. I my mpg over a 120 miles trip to and Cape Cod, and noticed a of about 9-10 miles per From my average of 45, it went to 36 mpg, only because of a huge resistance added by the rack and the It was also a big hassle to put the bike on and it off, each time I it and I was always afraid someone steal it.

In the end, Prius is enough to fit all my gear and potential passengers. An snowboarding / skiing trip Boston to Wachusett mountain ski with all boards, skies and equipment consumes about 2.5 of gas. If I was driving my Civic with a roof rack, I go through about 3.5 gallons of

A Honda Accord / Toyota with a roof rack, use 4.5 gallons or 4 gallons without rack.

Using Toyota for work as a roofing estimator

Although recreational use of Toyota Prius is fun and me much joy from both the and comport standpoints, the may purpose of a hybrid car (first the Civic and now Prius) in the first place, was my business. I do a lot of work related about 60-70% of my total and hybrid car is a perfect choice not for a green roofing contractor myself, but for almost any estimator in a industry, as well as most sales people. Nature of our dictates that our roofing are spread around Massachusetts.

Island and Connecticut. Green roofs such as IB PVC roofing and Roofs are premium products adequate price tag, so we don t work in the same neighborhood, job after job job. Most homeowners choose the non environmentally friendly, but roofs such as asphalt and EPDM rubber roofing flat roofs). Therefore, we operate in a larger geographic than an average roofing who is diving his Diesel F-250 town, and to work.

We be greener, we have to compensate for the we drive by lowering our fuel

Being a roofing contractor, specializing in roofing technologies such as flat roofs and lifetime roofing materials. as wells as gardens, we needed a car that consume little fuel, and of our image as a green construction The car also had to be reliable and versatile / to carry all product samples and materials as wells as equipment and a small ladder to get on the roof. While Hybrid was economical and reliable, it the utility of bigger cars and did not to most people as a hybrid the way to know it was a hybrid, was to read the hybrid  label on the  trunk and by at futuristic rims.

Still, 90 of people did not recognize that it was in a hybrid car until I mentioned it.

had everything I needed in a hybrid: It is for a compact sedan there is of legroom both in the front and seat. The trunk space is big to hold all my roofing samples, tools, an 11 feet telescopic and my folding bike, to go for a bike after an estimate.

I can also fit on the seat all the tools and materials to go on a rubber roof repair which we provide to homeowners in MA, CT and RI. a home-owner has a shady roofing install rubber roof begins to leak soon, and the is no where to be found, it may be too expensive for people to have another new roof installed. Often roofs can be repaired, which we do for as as $350.

However, most contractors will drive truck to work with of unnecessary tools in the tool box and on the rack, and waste a lot of fuel. In case of a rubber roof we did, I used a prius to get and all my tools as supplies fit perfectly in the seat.

Now you may ask how I as a roofing contractor can get doing roof estimates and roof repair work a compact car don t I need a ladder to get up on the is YES. I do need a ladder, and no, I do not tie a to the roof of my Prius. Before we go on a estimate or a roof service I will ask if the homeowner has a ladder enough to reach the roof. You may be but most people do have a enough ladder, and allow me to use it, so I can get by with driving my Prius to at or repair a leaking roof.

Only on a rare occasion do I need to my Toyota Tundra pick-up to bring the necessary ladders or equipment / materials to the job-site. I remember about 7 such in the last year and a half I started doing this.

is also an excellent choice to get to the job is located within a normal distance for an average morning I d pick up my guys and we would go to in a my car if needed tools, materials and were already on the job-site. is never the first or the last day of the installation, but rather some in the middle, when I do not need a to just get to work.

I will use the to deliver materials and equipment and the car on other days, when I don t to haul heavy or bulky

3rd Gen Toyota Prius Optional and Packages:

Honda Civic Hybrid (3rd gen)

Prius come in optional packages, numbered 1 to 5. Package 1 is virtually non-existent in the US (or at least in New England). I chose 2, which is more on the basic but has all power options (power / windows). Basic package 3 exactly $1000 more package 2, and is in my opinion a complete of money.

The only difference packages 2 and 3 is the upgrade to a 6-disc CD and 8-speaker audio system. using Civic s USB hook-up and an 8 GB USB drive to hold all my music, now I hate CDs and do not need a CD changer is slow and makes annoying 8 speakers vs.

6 speakers is also not a improvement to justify paying thousand.

Still, there is a for package 3. The only way you can upgrade to the in GPS Navigation or the so much advertised, yet useless Solar Sun Roof, is to at least a package 3 Prius. of this upgrade is $3600 and you get one without the other.

Built-in GPS / Navi:

I love my Garmin GPS and hate every built-in navigation system including the ones in luxury like Lexus. When you for fast food on a Garmin, it you the closest junk food based on distance. If you try to do the same a built in navigation of either or Toyota, unless you first your city and state, you get some McDonald s and Wendy s in or Nebraska — literally!

If you need to in some weird address which in Navi does none recognize by the two street numbers, it won t let you proceed. I spent over 30 minutes for an address which was pretty much the corner.

When I test-drove the 3 prius with Navi,  place nearby, but went in a direction. The GPS would not shut up and telling me to make a u-ture in three miles . Even the salesman could not figure out how to the current route.

And the worst of the position and angle of a built-in GPS make in impossible to see, sun hits the screen, which a lot during the day. Basically, navigation is the best. I just I can figure out a turn by turn on my iPhone and I won t need any GPS at all.

The Solar Sun Roof:

This in my as a complete scam on the part of The Solar PV panels mounted on the of a Prius do not charge the battery They waste energy on the fan to keep car s interior space the temperature as outside.

Who needs fan for their car parked most of the You would only need it if you kids or pets in your car all day and had a bad of leaving them in the car, is a bad habit anyway. Ok, you can t always your pet with you to the store a small crack in the windows car will self ventilate.

And if you to live your pet in the car for more 5-10 minutes to get something the store, why do you have your pet you?

The sun roof is a sun roof it is to have, completely useless 99% of the time, but keeps resale value up. While I live with the Solar the coolest invention since jeans, the GPS was an absolute NO for me.

Packages 4 and 5 are on a luxury side and come 17 alloy wheels, GPS/Solar and only GPS in a package 5, but with the which is really cool but not $33000+. For just a bit more, you can get a 250h hybrid.

Pros, cons and other feelings:

Based on all of the above I went with simple, yet nice package 2 and am very with it. Overall, the prius completely my needs and wants. I wanted at first, so I test drove the hybrid, but realized that I did not / want it, and it also took the hybrid image, which presents and is recognized for.

The thing that really me about my Prius, is the lack of USB which should be standard in technologically advanced car.

Toyota how could you screw it up so It is so simple to provide a simple USB the sound system already mp3 format, and there is an auxiliary connection. Now i have to go through my to find a song I need and is a million of wires and cables all the car so I can listen to Pandora online Honda is SO much better in regard

Still, Prius is and I got a decent trade value Toyota, while Honda a sale. It is especially strange when I was shopping for my new car, the two dealerships, Toyota and Honda, are located side by side on 1 in Norwood, MA, had a VERY different There were over 15 on Honda s lot, and not a single 3rd to test-drive, and over 15 cars sold sticker in the windshield. Honda would not give me a on a car which was clearly loosing the battle of hybrid .

Insight is supposed to be the economy hybrid, almost as much as comparably equipped yet lacks the trunk space and does not look nearly as as Prius. It is a shame in my opinion Honda blew this to make a great hybrid and / sell it well.

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