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GM and Nissan trade punches electric car fast charging

At a hearing today convened by Senate Majority Leader Corbett to discuss Electric Deployment, representatives of GM and Nissan over electric car fast standards.

A big battle is being over the charging socket of cars, one in which billions of in coming infrastructure expenditures and share are at stake, as well as the of mainstream electric vehicle Today a very instructive of salvos were fired a public California State Committee meeting, chaired by Senate Majority Leader Corbett, on the topic of Electric Deployment. In the exchange a GM representative to limit adoption of DC Fast to only those which to the upcoming SAE DC Fast Charge while a Nissan representative the CHADEMO connector, available on the i-MiEV and Nissan Leaf, as the existing fast charging and one that meets the needs of market.

The broad ranging meeting took testimony on the of California’s electric vehicle on the manufacturers perspective regarding electric vehicle deployment, and on vehicle infrastructure issues. The between GM and Nissan took 10 minutes out of the 2+ hours of the meeting, and a glimpse into the battle fought between the automakers for in electric cars.

CHADEMO was in Japan, and was first deployed for vehicle charging by TEPCO in 2008. Data from time shows that the CHADEMO network was installed, car utilization shot way up. The assumption is the existence of fast charging goes a long ways to range anxiety, giving car owners the freedom of mind to their cars.

There is every expectation as fast charging networks are in the U.S. the same will But there is a battle brewing two competing standards for DC Fast the CHADEMO standard being now by Nissan and Mitsubishi, and the SAE DC Fast standard being pushed by GM and an of 8 total car manufacturers.

In the meantime and charging network operators are ready to build DC Fast networks, with CHADEMO. settlement with NRG that building a large charging network in California, is in part an of CHADEMO. 350Green is building in the San Francisco Bay Area. and Chicago. of fast charging stations.

are stakes on the table. Electric adoption and utilization will be tremendously with networks of charging stations. There is a for market position, with GM and being the primary players electric cars on the market. is an existing standard (CHADEMO) years of experience behind it, a new standard, that might be in cars next year, if all right.

And we have states and corporations money today on electric car DC charging network deployment.

Shad Balch, Manager of Energy Policy, let loose the salvo when naming off a of priorities GM has that will aid vehicle adoption. The first priorities were very focusing on making it easier for and businesses to deploy electric car station infrastructure, and to ensure the infrastructure is built in places it will be used.

His final was on standards, starting by noting the had successfully settled on the J1772 connector. In the previous era of electric adoption, only 10 years the various automakers made choices for charging plugs. It the charging infrastructure installed at time cost twice as as it should have cost, each installation had to install kinds of charging stations.

It was a that we do not want to repeat and J1772 was the solution.

Balch on to describe the current situation as a of fast charging standards Tesla having its own proprietary 3 system, Nissan and Mitsubishi CHADEMO. He noted that week, at EVS26, an alliance of 8 (including GM) announced support for a the plug designed by the SAE DC Fast committee. He described this as a new one that is going to come, before the end of this year, the SAE committee is expected to approve the this summer, charging are expected to become available in the year, and cars to become in 2013.

The bombshell then landed Balch said we need to sure, especially because talking about taxpayer that ONLY those are installed going forward. that because the SAE DC Fast standard is the only standardized charging system, this is the to endorse. Balch was actually at this point, but he went on to us of the past history, that we its a bad move to have competing connector standards. Finally, he there is a very small of cars that use a non-standardized 3 charging connector, referring to the Leaf and Mitsubishi i-MiEV and the Tesla Model S.

David Nissan’s West Coast Manager covering Zero Mobility, spoke immediately Balch, and he launched almost into tossing an answering He noted first that is bringing to market, this what will be the lowest DC Fast Charger, costing the price of competitive charging He also noted that has sold 30,000 Leaf’s since the late 2010 making it the most widely electric car to date.

Speaking CHADEMO, Peterson noted it is the standard which exists on the today, and it is the only standard will charge the 12,000 on U.S. roads today. predicts it will take time for the SAE DC Fast Charging to truly get underway, regardless of the of standardization. He went on to point to the for a truly global standard, for China has developed their own DC Charging standard that is with everything else.

Finally, the CHADEMO standard has itself in multiple applications, and can not only vehicle fast but vehicle-to-home and vehicle-to-grid applications. It is belief that CHADEMO or exceeds the needs of todays

Let’s tease this a little bit.

First, statement is broadly implying California is wasting its money in a CHADEMO network, and that should wait until the SAE DC Charge system becomes in cars. The NRG settlement requires NRG to building Freedom Stations year, with 20% of the California network to be built by the end of 2012. By the of the settlement NRG has no choice but to install stations.

Second, GM wins the battle if CHADEMO deployments are That is, a major advantage of the is the CHADEMO fast charging but that advantage can only be if there is a wide-spread CHADEMO in existence. If CHADEMO network can be thwarted, Leaf owners be unable to enjoy the fast port built into cars, and the Leaf looks attractive as a result.

Third, is a fine distinction being here. Balch (GM) CHADEMO a non-standardized system, Peterson (Nissan) calls it a The problem with standards is are so many of them to choose CHADEMO was defined by the CHADEMO and that group declared to be a standard.

The SAE is a wide ranging standards for the automobile industry.

Fourth, point about a single are spot on. For example it is the NEMA for electrical outlets that let us buy any from any electronics vendor and plug it into any power We should have that with electric cars as and the history 10 years ago is very

Fifth, the opposition by the SAE committee to goes back a few years, some claiming the SAE committee is adoption of CHADEMO on political rather than on technical The SAE committee has its rationale for rejecting in preference to the combo plug, that the combo plug only one hole in the car’s while CHADEMO requires two Additionally the SAE combo plug single phase AC, three AC, and DC Fast Charging, all using one

But the SAE committee is dominated by automakers who are Nissan for electric vehicle

Speaking following the meeting, spokesperson, Terry O’Day, that the settlement between NRG and does require that, as the SAE charging standard becomes that it be deployed to eVgo Stations. At least three charging station manufacturers Eaton. and Schneider Electric ) are to support the SAE standard.

It’s hard to predict the until it happens. CHADEMO is an standard having proven and is in cars that are shipping in The 8 manufacturers in the SAE combo plug are, with the exception of GM, not shipping electric cars, or are so in very limited production

As Nissan and Mitsubishi sell cars, CHADEMO becomes entrenched as a de-facto standard. On the hand the manufacturers behind the SAE plug may, in the due course of also step up to the plate and electric cars in quantity. it’s true that the decider is the consumer, this of battle skews the choices the actually have.

Those of us who Beta VCR’s back in the day that the technically better sometimes loses.

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